EXTEND LONDON DRAGWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Blue88Stang]

The shut down is way to short as everyone knows... Make good use of the land and extend it....

WHOS WITH ME!!!!!!!!!!!!:d

[The Anti Rice]

Yeah, I'm with you, but that stuff takes money. And money is tight for everyone right now, good luck.

[midnightblue02]

I agree, it does need to be extended... But like he said, takes alot of money

[joseph_flynn007]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51pb9cErZ%2BL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

[lucky-13-racing]

i agree 100% it is farely short expecially for the faster cars

[mopar_man]

just a good reason to have a chute on the car, lol

[joseph_flynn007]

Speaking of parachute

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez95xIZ53Ao

[flippy1974]

I agree, it does need to be extended... But like he said, takes alot of money
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[Loudmouth]

Trust me guys, No one would like to do it more than we would. Anybody got a dozer and some blacktop equipment they're willing to donate???? :)

[Phil]

to extend it out to a safe distance what are we looking at, $30k or so?

[joseph_flynn007]

I doubt that would even cover fifty feet

[jimmy]

why not during the summer every sunday after the the cruise setup a swap and shop and have vendors pay to set up booths to sell parts and so on and while ppl are looking around and buying parts there would still be the fee for racing and the concession stand so all around making money to extend the track plus it would bring in more ppl to the track

[Phil]

I doubt that would even cover fifty feet
it should no problem. a good dozer operator could do the dozer work in a few days. 3 inches of blacktop would be plenty this is only shutdown room were talking about. we just had about 300 feet of blacktop laid 3 inches thick and ten or 12 feet wide for 3000 dollars. as far as concrete barriers on either side that could run into some money probably. how far would the extension even be length wise?

[19trans_am98]

i would say at least another 300-500' to be able to run in the low tens....

[Phil]

well that might call for some different action. thats a pretty long distance. is there even really enough room to go 500 more ft and leave the entrance the way it is?

[19trans_am98]

i think so....but if they really wanted to get a lot more cars that would be the way to go!!

[Phil]

my car is even slow and i hate having to be so hard on the brakes

[Loudmouth]

I would say 300ish' is feasible I would think the water barriers would be a safe and cost effective solution down there.

Now, keep in mind, I DID NOT SAY THAT WE'RE EXTENDING!!!

We'd love to, and thought about it, but you'll see blacktop all the way from the road before the track will grow.

[joseph_flynn007]

Help remove the dust problem?

[Loudmouth]

Yep!

[Mr.396]

With the condition of the economy the way it is track operators are having enough trouble just keeping the gates open.It is hard to justify making any major improvements especially if you lease a race track.It would be like making a lot of major and expensive modifications to a car you were leasing and knowing that when the lease ran out on the car you were going to lose your investment.All the tracks that I know of in KY. run almost all their races on a 1/8 mile program.Some like Beech Bend will have a major 1/4 mile show 5 or 6 times a year.They do try to have a 1/4 mile trophy race on the days they have their weekly bracket program but usually only get eight to ten entries in the class on a good day.TnT nights or fun nights will usually have more 1/4 mile cars but these racers are not interested in racing in a trophy race or gambler race.Most nights London will have only 4 to 6 cars race in the 1/4 mi. trophy class.With these kinds of numbers I do not see any reason for London to extend the shut down area in the near future.Hope they can pave the entry road soon.

[mopar_man]

That is true but I think if they had the track to run 1/4 mile constinatly the racers would change their setups to run the full 1/4. I know I would. But you will have to have plenty of shut off area and I'm not sure london has the property to do it right and still have the entrance were it is. If they are gonna do it, it needs to be done right or there will be more problems than it is worth.

Hell if they could do it right they might be able to get a pinks all out show to come there. If that came they would be able to pay the investment off very quickly. also some damn good promotion.

But everything costs money and I don't anyone with any. lol

[Frd Sux]

If you can't stop a low 10 sec car there you need to buy some brakes !! There's 7 sec car's there every month !

[Mr.396]

Jimmy the idea of having a program of some type like racing/car meet/part vendors after the Cruise once a month is a good idea.Racing promoters have tried to have some races on Sundays with little success in our area.London and the Russell county track have both had races on Sundays and most of the time the gate count is way down in comparision to a saturday night.The exception to this is the Bell County Bash that is held at London once a year and is a good show/race.This year the car count for the Ky.Streets race seemed to be down also.Lets hope that the races held on Sundays at London in 2010 will be bigger and better.

[joseph_flynn007]

I think I can bring those numbers back up for Kystreets come next year.

Slowing down to a 7 second pass by the 1/4 is different than balls to the walls to 7 seconds in the 1/4 and then getting on the brakes.

[Mr.396]

Mopar Man: I do not see 1/4 mile racing expanding at race tracks in the near future for heads up or bracket racing.In the late 80s and early 90s I raced at Beech Bend often.When I first started going there they ran 1/4 mi. bracket races soon after they switched to 1/8 mile for most of their races.The reason that they switched was that the other tracks in the area (Music City,Clarksville,Ohio Valley) raced on the 1/8 is what I was told.Looking at today you see NHRA moving to a 1000' in TF and FC.The ADRL holds all their races on the 1/8 mile.These moves are probably done for safety.Also racing on the 1/8 mile is easier on your equipment.I am sure that there will always be drags contested over 1320' in the future but I do not see current 1/8 mi. tracks expanding to 1/4 mi. any time soon.I have heard that insurance for 1/8 mi. tracks is less $$$ also.

[fraz]

If you can't stop a low 10 sec car there you need to buy some brakes !! There's 7 sec car's there every month !
If you stop a low 10 sec car there much you will putting brakes on every other trip to the track. I promise no one will ever make a 7 sec pass holding it all the way thru the 1/4 and not be picked up in pieces at the entrance to the track.

[Robert]

i would say at least another 300-500' to be able to run in the low tens....


With a good car low Tens is not a prob. But as all to often the case people overlook key items on there car such as Brakes and only go for the added power. That is why we always limit our races to 11.00.

I am sure when all the cards align prob Craig will have it done. Untill then buy some brakes or add a lot of power and just run the 1/8. I could use some company.banana

[Mr.Lsx]

we pave loudmouth Acton's Inc look us up

[joseph_flynn007]

Untill then buy some brakes or add a lot of power and just run the 1/8. I could use some company.banana

Thirty cars, the move, and throw your chute after 60 feet and you got a race.

Ill even be on a small tire.

[Loudmouth]

we pave loudmouth Acton's Inc look us up

Trade a permanent Gold Card for a few hundred feet of blacktop:)

[selfinfliction]

quit screwing around and talking about how much money it will cost

just write a bunch of bad checks and ask obama for bailout money!

have you guys not learned anything form the past year???!!??! :lmao:banana:lmao:

[joseph_flynn007]

quit screwing around and talking about how much money it will cost

just write a bunch of bad checks and ask obama for bailout money!

have you guys not learned anything form the past year???!!??! :lmao:banana:lmao:


That is the truth

[Blue88Stang]

Yea, i know it will cost alot.... But from a buisness stand point 30k to 40k is not alot...

Also look at all the people who go to beech bend... at least 5 people from monticello go to beech bend every year cause they don't wanna screw with london...

Also look at all the fast 1/4th miles car you are losing to Clay city and beechbend... No fast 1/4th mile cars go to london... Not saying that they are not none.. But not on a concistant baisis...

I am just saying if i owned the track i would extend the shut down to the road lol and have some 7, 8, and 9, sec street cars come and do there thing

Faster cars + More people+35k for shut down= More money at the end of the day for a bad economy

[Darkhorse5.0]

I wished it was extended as well but I understand in these economic conditions it would be hard to do. I can assure you that you would get a few more cars just by judging what Ive heard friends and other racers that attend different tracks say and so forth but I dont know how long it would take to actually make that money back but thats not saying a 1/8th mile track cant be succesfull. Crossville is still one of my favorite tracks around because of the bounty race and the track prep has always been top notch so you can expect a show everytime. (and you cant go wrong w/ a beer stand.)

[selfinfliction]

that's a great idea

london, put in a beer stand to pay for the track extension!!!!!

[Loudmouth]

We couldn't keep Uncle Carl out of it if we had a beer stand!

[joseph_flynn007]

Would we be required to take breathalizer's before each round? Lmao!

[dakotaboils]

Longer track would be great see alot faster cars plus with a beer stand you'd get twice the admissions b/c of D.D haha

[mopar_man]

They put in a beer stand I wouldn't be worth a shit at all. lol

[selfinfliction]

They put in a beer stand I wouldn't be worth a shit at all. lol

as long as you're not driving, it's all good... me and you can hang out and be not worth a shit together cause i never drive anyways :d

[roman_back]

i second the beer stand... just have a bottle of jeager on the side for me and ill get up in the announcers booth and just ramble on all night... would make for some entertainment anyways lol

[Robert]

Thirty cars, the move, and throw your chute after 60 feet and you got a race.

Ill even be on a small tire.
you want me to take off in reverse too??:lmao:

[Loudmouth]

As much cash as a beer stand would bring, I'd bet my bassett hound that you'll never see one there.

Robert launching in reverse?,,, wouldn't surprise me LOL

[1_import_2_hate]

jezz kim y do u care if the extend the track? its not like you will ever b fast!! rofl

[joseph_flynn007]

you want me to take off in reverse too??:lmao:

Well since you offered.....

[selfinfliction]

As much cash as a beer stand would bring, I'd bet my bassett hound that you'll never see one there.

Robert launching in reverse?,,, wouldn't surprise me LOL

what would be the downfall of it? i don't think there would be any problems as long as liquor doesn't come into play, then you could also charge like $5 a cup, that way not everyone will be getting wasted.

i think if you controlled the consumption by having a higher cost, everything would be fine. now if you start have $2 buckets of beer, then you're going to start seeing all the drunks come around. people would bitch about the cost as they do everything else, but just leave it simple, if you don't like the cost, don't buy it.

[The Anti Rice]

Yea, i know it will cost alot.... But from a buisness stand point 30k to 40k is not alot...

Also look at all the people who go to beech bend... at least 5 people from monticello go to beech bend every year cause they don't wanna screw with london...

Also look at all the fast 1/4th miles car you are losing to Clay city and beechbend... No fast 1/4th mile cars go to london... Not saying that they are not none.. But not on a concistant baisis...

I am just saying if i owned the track i would extend the shut down to the road lol and have some 7, 8, and 9, sec street cars come and do there thing

Faster cars + More people+35k for shut down= More money at the end of the day for a bad economy It's not that simple, it never is. It's easy to say why don't you throw money at it until it gets better, but your reasoning is exactly in line with the reasoning that caused our shitty economy. 35-40K is a LOT of money for a trend based business. Especially considering how volatile the price of fuels and, well, anything is right now. Maybe they take a 40K loan out, the price of fuel skyrockets to $5.00/gallon for 87 and layoffs start again. It's a VERY likely scenario until our economy and political climate is steady again.

We would all like to see London be extended, but be realistic, 5 people from Monticello? Who gives a f*ck when your talking about 5 people vs 40,000 dollars? That's an expense of 8K per person, Craig would never make 8K per person in a lifetime. There just isn't the demand for the expense in this area. There could possibly be justification if some sort of NMRA or NHRA 1/4 mile event was agreed upon, but until there is a guarantee of that kind of that kind of exposure and business, it's not going to happen.

There are many other factors other than shut down distance as well. There just isn't the room on top of that ridge for the kind of crowds they need to justify that expense. There are numerous other reasons as well. It's simply not "let's do it and hope more people come." Wishes and dreams. Give Craig some solid proven numbers and statistics that show a reasonable reason to extend it, and then it might be considered.

[oneoverwrx]

All i can say is that clay city has pissed alot of people off in the past year and you would have a lot more business coming from the north.

The problem is that 99.9% of people have no issues running the 1/4 at london and getting stopped in time. The people that are concerned with it have set their cars up for the 1/8th..

Has anyone contacted nhra or nmra about this idea of extending and seeing if London could get added to their circuits?

[boostd]

I'd like to see the drive in paved over a longer shutdown. Although my brakes are more than enough to slow my car down no faster than I am, hence no worries about the shutdown.

Either way, i'll keep coming. I've been very happy racing at London over the last couple of years. Hope I get to make it out more next year.

[joseph_flynn007]

It wouldn't shock me if the driveway was paved within the next two years as long as things dont plummet again.

So why was Monticello specifically mentioned?

[The Anti Rice]

So why was Monticello specifically mentioned?

Talk to your boy, He mentioned it, I just repeated it. :d


All i can say is that clay city has pissed alot of people off in the past year and you would have a lot more business coming from the north.

Really? Might I ask why? I always liked racing at Clay City?

[joseph_flynn007]

Talk to your boy, He mentioned it, I just repeated it. :d



Really? Might I ask why? I always liked racing at Clay City?

Tercel > ALL

After seeing how CC done that shuffle box shit at the KYHP Shootout it doesn't surprise me.

Think they also haven't been prepping much or sticking to their schedule.

[Frd Sux]

Just be glad you got a drag strip !!

[mopar_man]

I AM VERY GLAD TO HAVE A DRAG STRIP!!!!!!!!!!! If nothing changes so the strip can stay open I will be very fine with that. Way to far to drive to another strip. One thing I hated about Detroit had to drive almost 2 hours to go to Milan's drag strip. Love having a local strip.

[Robert]

Yeah I agree. I would rather see the entrance paved before the track extended though. I think that keeps a lot of nice cars away from the Midnight Madness Events and stuff. They may not be racing just crusing by and watching. But Craig can only do what he can do. Although I never got to make a pass this year, I was told that they switched traction compond this year and made it hook better. I know the 8.5 slick tire class was having some outstanding 60ft times.

[boostd]

Just be glad you got a drag strip !!

+1!!!

[roman_back]

Yeah I agree. I would rather see the entrance paved before the track extended though. I think that keeps a lot of nice cars away from the Midnight Madness Events and stuff. They may not be racing just crusing by and watching. But Craig can only do what he can do. Although I never got to make a pass this year, I was told that they switched traction compond this year and made it hook better. I know the 8.5 slick tire class was having some outstanding 60ft times.


didnt that mitchell guy set the record at london?:dunno: i dont see the big complaint. would be nice to have an extended track, but im not gonna complain, i would rather have the entrance paved myself, i dunno how many times i have cussed coming up through there and the car in front of me slingin dust up on my freshly detailed car.:mad:

[joseph_flynn007]

Paved driveway and all the pits covered in concrete/blacktop would probably increase turnouts. Think how many people there are out there that thinks their car is too good to touch gravel. Also not to mention you wont see as much debree being tracked up into the lanes (gravel, cigarette butts, dirt/mud/dust, general trash).

I say ban that junky as primer Camaro with the Hyden plate that dumps mud everywhere when he launches/breaks.

[Robert]

yeah to joe and roman. I know everybody says extend it but I think the entrance paved would be the best investment to make at first. Just my thoughts, all and all it is up to Craig, who is doing a great job with what he has to work with at the moment.

[Loudmouth]

I say ban that junky as primer Camaro with the Hyden plate that dumps mud everywhere when he launches/breaks.

WOW that was a BAD night...... removing the tranny in the waterbox and all

[ls1chris]

i agree paving the entrance and some of the pit area should be first priority.The track is a damn good track that Hooks good and has clicked off some very good et's.But if the entrance was paved and the pit are that would bring in more traffic like has been said,because a lot off ppl dont like their cars getting dirty and debries in the air from the dust.

I honestly thought about mention it earlier but Why dont they have a Donations place where ppl could donate money to help with track Repair/Upgraded.I think alot of ppl would pitch in and we could get a entrance paved very quickly.I know i would pitch in ,Hell if you could get 10-20 a person donated that would add up very quickly .I think it should be considered,Have a site where ppl could donate or have a place at the track when it is open to take in collections.If we could start Sending donations i would say by summer we could be close to what it would take to do it.

And maybe do something special for ppl that donated a decent amount(50$-100$ or something like that) like a couple free track visits or Put a thank you with ppl that donated up on the website or something.

[joseph_flynn007]

I would most definitely be game to help London if I can

[Mr.396]

Loudmouth:That primer camaro needs to have a engine diaper,a trans diaper and a under carriage diaper if they come back in 2010.Maybe Craig could get a old street sweeper truck to follow it in the pit and down the strip.lol

[Frd Sux]

I AM VERY GLAD TO HAVE A DRAG STRIP!!!!!!!!!!! If nothing changes so the strip can stay open I will be very fine with that. Way to far to drive to another strip. One thing I hated about Detroit had to drive almost 2 hours to go to Milan's drag strip. Love having a local strip.

Yeah we used to go to Bowling Green TNT on saturday nights a bunch, and that's a haul, and raced at Clay City a bunch. Thank God for London !

[JPM]

There are two money men awaiting a signature from the folk @ London dragway. They have some awesome plans for the facilities and events all they need to do is sign the dotted line. the attornies have done their part, the guys are wanting to do theirs.

[Loudmouth]

There are two money men awaiting a signature from the folk @ London dragway. They have some awesome plans for the facilities and events all they need to do is sign the dotted line. the attornies have done their part, the guys are wanting to do theirs.


There was a deal on the table a couple of months ago to take on some more partners. That deal has not, and is not going to come through. I'll be putting up a post shortly with all the current info about whats happening in 2010.